Episode 25

September 29, 2026

01:09:35

EMERALD ROBINSON UNFILTERED: Election Trust, AI, Censorship & the GOP’s 2028 Debate | AJ RICE

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A.J. RICE

Show Notes

Emerald Robinson, host of The Absolute Truth and publisher of The Right Way, joins A.J. Rice on Dangerous Laughter for an in-depth conversation about election technology, artificial intelligence, censorship, the Supreme Court, independent media and the future direction of Republican politics.

Robinson discusses the continuing debate over public confidence in American elections, including voting machines, mail-in ballots and election technology.

The conversation then turns to artificial intelligence and the massive data centers being built to support it.

Could energy use, data-center construction, regulation and competition with China turn AI into a political issue that cuts across traditional party lines?

Topics include:

• Election trust
• Voting technology
• Voting machines
• Mail-in ballots
• Artificial intelligence
• AI data centers
• Energy and computing infrastructure
• AI regulation
• China and technology competition
• Big Tech
• Censorship
• Emerald Robinson’s White House reporting
• Her 2021 Twitter suspension
• DARPA
• COVID-era media controversies
• The Supreme Court
• The Federalist Society
• Republican-appointed justices
• J.D. Vance
• Marco Rubio
• Republican presidential politics
• Populism
• Foreign policy
• Conservative media
• Never Trump conservatism
• Rumble
• Substack
• Podcasts
• Independent journalism
• Political influencers

Robinson also revisits her earlier writing criticizing the Never Trump wing of conservative media and discusses how Donald Trump’s rise coincided with a much larger disruption of traditional political-media gatekeepers.

Podcasts, Substack, Rumble and independent creators now allow political figures and commentators to reach audiences without relying on cable television or legacy publications.

But that creates another question:

THE BIGGER QUESTION

What happens when the alternative media becomes powerful enough to create gatekeepers of its own?

A.J. and Robinson discuss paid influencers, authenticity, ideological disagreement and whether political movements can remain intellectually healthy when dissent inside the movement is treated as betrayal.

They also discuss possible future Republican leadership, including J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio, without assuming that any candidate or faction will control the party’s next presidential contest.

Subscribe to Dangerous Laughter with A.J. Rice for conversations about politics, technology, media, free speech, culture, political satire and the battles shaping American public life.

EMERALD ROBINSON

The Right Way
Emerald.TV

X: @EmeraldRobinson

The Absolute Truth
LindellTV.com

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DANGEROUS LAUGHTER

DangerousLaughter.com

A.J. RICE

AJRicePR.com

PubliusPR.com

X: @PubliusPR

Chapters

  • (00:00:01) - Cold Open and Show Intro
  • (00:01:36) - Introducing Emerald Robinson
  • (00:03:08) - Scotch Irish Roots and Origin Stories
  • (00:09:19) - Daily Orbit, DARPA, and Science Journalism Roots
  • (00:11:13) - COVID Skepticism and Fighting Jen Psaki
  • (00:16:05) - Break: Curse of the Bearded Lady Bit
  • (00:19:27) - Back with Emerald, Substack and Book Talk
  • (00:22:12) - Supreme Court, Mail-In Ballots, and Midterms
  • (00:23:37) - Failed SCOTUS Picks and GOP Batting Average
  • (00:28:36) - Pelosi on Voting Machines and Election Integrity
  • (00:35:32) - Mitch McConnell Youth Movement Bit
  • (00:38:21) - Break Two
  • (00:40:32) - Generational Politics: Vance vs Rubio
  • (00:42:21) - Right-Wing Splits: Iran, Israel, AI Data Centers
  • (00:45:34) - Democrat Primary Rigging and AOC Speculation
  • (00:50:43) - AI, Data Centers, and the Next Political Race
  • (00:53:38) - The Collapse of Never Trumper Conservatives Piece
  • (00:59:29) - Obama's Dinner and Controlled Opposition
  • (01:02:51) - Legacy of the Column and Media Shakeup
  • (01:06:12) - Closing Remarks and Where to Find Emerald
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:01] Speaker A: Dangerous laughter. Laughter. [00:00:06] Speaker B: Dangerous. Danger. [00:00:10] Speaker A: Laughter. Dangerous laughter. [00:00:20] Speaker B: Danger. [00:00:25] Speaker A: Left turn sa. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Day 8. [00:01:09] Speaker C: The Emergency Destruct system is now activated. The option to override detonation procedure has now expired. The ship will automatically destruct one minute. Back on Dangerous Laughter. I have a show for you today. Always Remember, go to dangerouslaughter.com and just remember, you never know what you're going to get on this show. A lot of the people that come on this show are, are friends of the movement, but not personal friends. Some of them maybe want to be personal friends. You know, some of them might want to go home with me at night, but I have to say no. I'm married. But my, my wife's long lost cousin is coming on the show today. Scotch Irish cousin. Always remember, we are unfit for polite company because there is no substitute for perfectly timed derision, which is what we do here on Dangerous Laughter. My next Dangerous guest, ladies and gentlemen, is the Savage queen of Twitter. She is the host of the Absolute Truth on Lindale tv, publishes the Right Way, her newsletter on substack. Everyone needs to go sign up for that now. She's known as, I just referenced in the Blue Ridge as the Scotch Irish high priestess of Appalachia. She served as the chief White House correspondent for both OAN and Newsmax, covering both Trump and Biden's White House. Became particularly known for putting Raggedy Ann there, Jen Psaki, in headlocks for sure. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Roger Stone's favorite redhead, Emerald Robinson, everybody. Emerald's in the house. That's right. Right. The queen is here. Look out. Look out. [00:03:14] Speaker B: You told me you were born in West Virginia, right? And then I was. You pronounced Appalachia wrong. [00:03:22] Speaker C: Well, as you could hear from this Philadelphia accent, it was like, it was like, you know, Moses leaving Egypt or coming down the river. I was born in Wheeling and my northeast Philadelphia parents, who met there at a hospital, you know, because my mom was a doctor and my dad was a parole officer who had just beat someone's ass and drug them into the emergency room and thought my mom was a nurse and she was a resident. She was a little pissed off about that. I was born there, but then about age four and a half, I was taken back to northeast Philadelphia, which is why, you know, I sound like Rocket Raccoon from the Guardians of the Galaxy. Right? That's the reason. That's the reason I sound like this. So. But no, I, I, I, I would love to go back to West Virginia and run for governor someday and dare people to actually make the Case that this, ladies and gentlemen, isn't a West Virginia accent. Indeed it is. Right. [00:04:17] Speaker B: So anyway, tough time on that one, but, you know. [00:04:21] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm not fooling anyone. So Emerald Robinson's here. We've got a lot to cover. Emerald and I have known each other a long time, but I, and, and look, people know Emerald from the online decapitations she does for to libs and linguine spine Republicans. You know, they've watched you over the years on OAN and Newsmax. Now Lindell TV got the sub stack. I know you're going to be launching a podcast sometime soon. We'll definitely promote that. But I think some people, you know, they. Maybe there's not enough time to breathe sometimes because you, you're on a clock when you do your TV show. I think some people want to know, we just heard my origin story, you know, which is from, you know, Veteran Stadium's bathroom. What is the Emerald Robinson's origin story? You know, because, you know, your father was a coal miner and you know, we connected on that because when my dad was in law school in Morgantown, he was a member of the coal miners union in West Virginia. So. So people want to know because I think your story is a. Is it is an American dream story because you went from Appalachia to the White House. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, well, there was, it was a long road in between. I grew up, up. I was raised up the holler. Now, see, my accent will really come out. People. [00:05:44] Speaker C: Oh, it's on now. [00:05:46] Speaker B: They think I have an accent still. When they done, when I'm doing my show or I'm on, you know, when I was at the White House, you know, they could tell I was Southern, but they have no idea how deep of an accent I. [00:05:57] Speaker C: Well, you know, you sound, well, you, you sound like the Queen of England compared to old. My. Another Scotch Irish girl that's on Fox all the time, Dagan McDow. I mean, Dagan. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Oh, Dagan sounds like. [00:06:08] Speaker C: I mean, I don't. Dagan sounds like she's from the, the, the on inside out of the, the upside down of the holler. I mean, she's, that's a heavy duty accent. And you know, Bravo. You know, Fox has a lot of problems, but bravo that they let her come on and, and you know, kind of like you, you know, she's a buster. She'll. She'll, she'll take some people out. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. She pulls those punches. I mean, she's probably one of those. You want in A bar fight with you. Like I would take your wife in [00:06:33] Speaker C: a bar fight with me. [00:06:34] Speaker B: My long, My long lost Scotch Irish cousin who actually made me a beautiful. One time. She made me a beautiful jacket with the savage queen of Twitter on the back. [00:06:44] Speaker C: You're getting, you're getting swag from dangerous laughter staff here. I mean, that's right. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Original. [00:06:49] Speaker C: My, My wife is Scotch Irish. Her grandmother's name was Agnes Scott. You know, tough cookie. I mean, all around, the Scotch Irish are a special people for sure. So, so I. [00:07:04] Speaker B: Look, we've been running from the British. That's right, the government, for hundreds of years now. So as things start to go downhill, where will I head to? The hills Back. That's right, the coal mines. Because, look, all we got to do is dynamite the front and the back of the holler and we've got pretty much everything we need there. And we're used to hiding. [00:07:25] Speaker C: Great Britain. Absolutely. Great Britain goes up into the Highlands and they break up the clan system, the McLeods and the McDonald's and. And so on. And takes their land. Yeah, takes their land, dumps them on my land in Northern Ireland, kicks us off, sends us off to starve to death, gives the land to. To the, to this relocated homeless Scottish people, and they can't take it there. So then the, the. The English government in Northern Ireland kicks them out off again, and away they go across the Atlantic. And they don't, they don't say to themselves, well, Boston looks good, Philly looks good, Baltimore looks good. You know, New York looks good. Oh, no, they walk into the, you know, the Shenandoah Mountains, the Appalachian Trail. They walk into the spine of the Northeast. And, you know, during the American Revolution, they were called the Regulators, and they were like a militia of just Highland mad men, you know, William Wallace maniacs running around. And the Red Coats wanted nothing to do with them, so. And, you know, it's. It is true, the spirit, the Scotch Irish spirit is like nothing you. You could ever come across, really. That's, That's. That's why I married one. Right. So. And, you know, every day I get a couple inches shorter, which is, you know, which is hard for me. And. Because she uses that Scotch Irish ax on me every day, I get chopped down. It's a tree that gets chopped down. [00:09:03] Speaker B: So she's a, She's a tough cookie, but that's what you probably. You. You're. You as a silly boy had to have. [00:09:08] Speaker C: That's right. I need somebody to kick my ass. So one thing, look emerald and I have Known each other a long time. The audience is going to get that. So, you know, you got to tell me whether this is true. So I'm, I, I start like, I'm like, okay, I gotta learn about my friend today. It's a new episode of learn about your friend. [00:09:27] Speaker B: So once upon a time. [00:09:29] Speaker C: Yeah, she doesn't know where I'm going with this. So once upon a time, did you work for something called the Daily Orbit? [00:09:36] Speaker B: Oh, man, that's a real blast from the past. I did. And guess what? You're not going to believe this. The DARPA boys loved me back then, you know. [00:09:45] Speaker C: Yes. I was on the website yesterday and they're like talking about elon Musk and SpaceX. They still exist. So you did. Go ahead. [00:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah. So the Daily Orbit was really fun. I covered science and tech for them. That's how. So, gosh, you talked about my origin story. So I went from the toddler to like North Carolina, then to like New York. Right. Dabbled in Atlanta, went out to Los Angeles, did a lot of entertainment news, lifestyle content in Los Angeles. So I went to school for journalism. Right. And then I decided to come back to the east coast to cover science and tech. And I did that for redorbit.com, the daily orbit. And they wanted it to have a fun vibe that would appeal to a broader audience. So it was kind of tongue in cheek, you know, which obviously I'm suited for. And it was a lot of fun because I'm actually quite geeky and nerdy, which, you know, a lot of people, you know, might not have known about me. [00:10:43] Speaker C: No, you totally are a nerd. [00:10:45] Speaker B: I was total nerd. [00:10:46] Speaker C: Best looking nerd. And I'm the best looking nerd in America as far as the audience is concerned. But what I find, what I find interesting is that you start there, right? You're doing that. I mean, you're doing other things. You've, you did some modeling and you did some entertainment news and some things like that. [00:11:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:02] Speaker C: But what's funny is the thing that made everyone's head explode, the thing that, you know, got, they tried to cancel you on, you know, was science and technology. So you start with, with the Daily orbit. Right. Or redorbit.com and, you know, in the midst of COVID you blow the whistle on all types of junk science that they're pushing. [00:11:28] Speaker B: You know, that came out of darpa. A lot of it came out of darpa. [00:11:31] Speaker C: Sure. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Right. When we were talking about the development of MRNA or even you had the whistleblower from dopa, darpa, as it related to the origins of COVID or from the Defense Department. And so here's the thing. A lot of people never even bother to look at my history. They didn't know that I covered science and tech. I've been invited to go out to JPL in LA and spend the week with them. You know, Dart. The DARPA guys used to. They found out that I lived in that. I actually, when I moved to D.C. and I cover science and tech, I lived right at. At the DARPA building. And they found out I would go into that. That Starbucks there. So they would come and find me at Starbucks and, you know, they tell me about all the cool things they were doing. Because at the time I was kind of a fan, right? I'm like, oh, the robotic dogs. And this is neat. And all of our technology. And I was talking about all this. The one thing I did notice when I was covering science, the pumpkin spice [00:12:18] Speaker C: lattes were glowing in that Starbucks. [00:12:20] Speaker B: They were glowing. Exactly. It was a very glowy, glowy. And it wasn't just darpa, Right. Let's be honest, half the DOJ was there. The ice. [00:12:29] Speaker C: Yeah, they're all there, right in Arlington. [00:12:31] Speaker B: My feet wet into the D.C. politics. But covered science and tech. And one thing I did notice in covering science and tech is that one week they would report this study. Oh, well, this is bad for you. You should not eat it. The next week was a completely different study. And I realized then the science could be made, studies could be engineered to get whatever outcome you want, and then it's disseminated to the public. So you could say in some ways that started to lay the groundwork to my skepticism, by the time we came around to 2020, there were a lot of things that happened. Right. And I think that coming from the background that I did, that I worked in so many different genres of news, from pop culture in Hollywood to then science and tech. And then I did a stint in economics, economic policy, and I did some work with the Cato Institute and the Heritage Foundation. During that, I was pretty well rounded to come into covering Congress and the White House because I had dabbled in a lot of these different disciplines. And so that started laying the groundworks where I realized the science is not necessarily science. And so when we were having those Covid briefings and Dr. Tony Fauci was spewing all kinds of things, I already knew and had worked with some of the journals and understood stood how it worked. [00:13:47] Speaker C: That's right. And look, you know, and I mean you know, people approach me at Publius pr. I mean, especially with the left or just with the deep state or big government in general. I mean, the genera. Anybody can generate a white paper on anything. Right. Like, oh, I wanna, I wanna generate. You know, and if you have an end result you're trying to get to whether it's Covid or climate change or trans. Right. If you insert those things into your study, like if you want to study the, you know, the mating patterns of Hercules beetles, if you say, well, they might change gender while they're. Whether, you know, while they're having sex or whatever, you get funded immediately by. [00:14:26] Speaker B: All kinds of things are gay. [00:14:27] Speaker C: The dolphins are gay. The. Yeah, I mean, you really. So that's the funny thing is that. So you had that built in. And you know, we do have a clip of you fighting with Jen Psaki, Chris, I don't know whether you could pull that up. If we could get that in, in this segment, that would be great. Fighting with her about COVID Some of the, some of the best exchanges that you had were memory hold. I couldn't find them. [00:14:55] Speaker B: But there is really tough to find. [00:14:57] Speaker C: Yeah, because you. [00:14:58] Speaker B: I have tried to save them. So I do have a collection. I mean, because at that time period, you got to remember Jen Psaki. Well, you might not know this. Jen Psaki got so frustrated with me asking questions, she tried to ignore me through the whole briefing. And then at the end, you know, I still yell my question. [00:15:14] Speaker C: I found that. I found that. And we don't have that. [00:15:16] Speaker B: I had them cut my mic. She started talking to C Span and the other networks and had them cut all the mics so that you could not hear me and so that she could make it get away without looking like she was running from me. [00:15:27] Speaker C: Wow, that's the red on red violence there. Although, you know, ginger violence. Yeah, I mean, she, she's something else. The fact that she just went and got a show. [00:15:37] Speaker B: She's not dumb. I'll tell you that. Kareem Jean Pierre was dumb as a. Like talking about Cole, a bucket of coal. But now Jen was not dumb. She was a little rusty at first and I called her out in the beginning because she, you know, she'd been out of it. She hadn't really been as active before she came into Biden's administration from Obama's, but she did, she did get with it and we had some, some pretty memorable exchanges. [00:16:02] Speaker C: Absolutely, absolutely. And we'll, you know, the audience will. We'll show that to the audience here in a second. So we're going to take a quick break because I want to, I want to take a quick break. I want to get into what's going on with the midterms here. So we are talking to Emerald Robinson, host of the Absolute Truth on Lindell tv. Remember, ladies and gentlemen, there is no substitute for perfectly time derision. We will be back with the beautiful and brilliant Emerald on the other side. [00:16:29] Speaker D: Ultra liberal white women. Their only currency in life is, you know, sort of virtue signaling because like they have everything else they could possibly want. So it's like this, this is how to be cool. [00:16:37] Speaker C: Look, you know, imagine being a Karen esque, just nagging pumpkin spice mafia white woman. You wake up every day miserable. You're mad for various reasons. It might be your reflection, but probably because, you know, you think society should bend to you and that you're, you're. You're weaponizing your own privilege. Liberal and in this case white. To go out into the world and you think your job is to act as the freaking hall monitor for everyone else going about their business every day. Whether you're standing in a line at Starbucks or you're on the elevator, you're like, you know, wait for someone to go up an escalator. That your job is to go around and correct everyone. I mean, this doc come up. This sounds like wife material, right? If you want, if you want. [00:17:32] Speaker D: Yeah. If you want to kill yourself, it's probably, I mean, yeah, like listen, if you're looking to off yourself, that is. [00:17:39] Speaker C: That is incredible wife material. [00:17:41] Speaker D: I mean that, that'll take you right up to the edge and right over like so. Yes, I agree with you. You should be women. And yet your beards forbid me to interpret that you are so. Someone once said comedy is the art of turning horror into humor. That's the essence of the Curse of the Bearded Lady. Laughing in the face of madness before it devours us whole. Nothing in living memory has been funnier or more horrifying than a movement convinced there are 72 genders. Boys have a penis. Girls have a vagina. The curse of the Bearded Lady. The Curse of the Bearded Lady. The trans mafia has whipped America's sanity. It's Monty Python by way of mingalo. Absurd theater with real victims. I'm not here to conduct a medical examination of the trans mafia. This is a cultural autopsy. If Billy Shakespeare could write tragedies, histories and comedies, why can't I? The radicals refuse to surrender their gender mad stranglehold on America's vital institutions. This book will show how we got Here, how we fight back and how the Democratic Party's obsession with mainstreaming the bearded lady will doom it to political extinction. Stay locked in with the man who slayed the woken dead. This is dangerous. Laughter with A.J. rice on the Publius Media Network. [00:19:27] Speaker C: We are back on the DL with Emerald Robinson. You know, people, you know Emerald, you know, we do a lot of books here. People want a book from Emerald Robinson at some point. [00:19:36] Speaker B: So does my publisher. [00:19:38] Speaker C: I'm telling you, I'm telling you. Yeah, you're, you're starving the audience, which is good. You know, it's like we want Sinatra to come back for, for a show like let's Do It. I mean, I think it would, I think it would do very, very well. And, you know, you would have fun with Amazon Shadow banning you and deplatforming you. What do you think they're doing to this thing over my left shoulder? I mean, are you kidding me? The, the curse of the bearded lady that they, they won't let me run ads in there. Nothing. So, but that's fine. That's. That's the fight we're in. We're back with Emerald Robinson. She is the host of the Absolute Truth on Lindale tv. And, you know, go check her out on Substack. The right way. Gotta sign up. And I think you've got a couple tiers, a couple ways to sign up, don't you? [00:20:24] Speaker B: I do. I mean, there's, you know, if you really want to go all in, you can become a founding member. And I do. I am also trying to find time to do some more exclusive content on Substack in addition to doing a book. Yeah, my publisher. [00:20:37] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [00:20:38] Speaker B: At my door and says, when's the book coming? [00:20:40] Speaker C: Now you're gonna have to go back to DARPA and have them clone you. So, so when you did, when you [00:20:47] Speaker B: did get five of me. [00:20:49] Speaker C: So, so Emerald starts off science reporter. We saw, you know, we went through the whole sort of timeline there. And obviously you challenging the Biden official propaganda on Covid and doing it on Twitter is the reason that even right wingers, you know, former employers said, oh, we can't. This, she's flying too close to the sun. We can't, we can't take it. [00:21:15] Speaker B: And you're saying not to touch, Right. [00:21:17] Speaker C: And so you're saying DARPA made a call. [00:21:20] Speaker B: So it was interesting. Some of my last exchanges before I got banned on X, then Twitter. Right. Because it was November 2021. I was going back and forth with DARPA publicly about the, the Vaccines and the MRNA technology. And that was what, that was amongst my last exchanges. And then I was. [00:21:41] Speaker C: So wait a minute, wait a minute. You're going back and forth. [00:21:43] Speaker B: It hates, you know, we've done, oh [00:21:46] Speaker C: my God, I'm trying to imagine the 40 year old virgin that's running the DARPA Twitter handle, right? And, and he's all mad because he couldn't get to take someone like emerald to promote 20 years ago, right? And he's, and, and they think they're so freaking clever. They've got what, 230 employees. None of us know what they do. And, and they're, they're debating you their door. I know they, they've got time to debate you on, on social media. It's amazing. So, all right, so look, there are certain people that if you throw the wrong pitch in baseball, you know, whether it's Babe Ruth or Otani or, you know, Kyle Schwaber on the Phillies, who's got 45 home runs this year leading the majors, if you, if you throw a certain pitch to Emerald, it's going to look like a beach ball coming up there and she's going to park it in the freaking stands. Now. [00:22:46] Speaker B: I used to be here. [00:22:48] Speaker C: Supreme Court rejects Trump mail in ballot restrictions ahead of midterms. So tell me what exactly is going on here? And I saw, for all of you who haven't seen it, Emerald's got up on her Twitter handle now like the definitive timeline. And it's abbreviated because it's Twitter, but It's like part one through 75,000 on Twitter right now on what the hell happened with the, with the 2020 election. So how, how is this Supreme Court decision fit into what we know from the past and apparently what we're going to get here in two months or soon? [00:23:25] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's a lot. That could be a whole day's worth of conversation. So let's, let's start with the court, because I say that because President Trump is blasting the court himself. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Right, right, right. [00:23:37] Speaker B: For this move. And he's like, these are not the people I interviewed when he sat with them and appointed them to the court. [00:23:44] Speaker C: Welcome to the club. [00:23:46] Speaker B: I'm actually, you know what, I'm pretty tough on him, but I'm going to give him a pass on that because let's be honest, none of us, you or I, nobody amongst the, you know, conservative establishment, or even us, you know, more populist wing of the conservative party, wondered if the Federalist Society knew what it was doing because, remember, they were the Ones who teed these? These up for President Trump? [00:24:14] Speaker C: That's right. [00:24:14] Speaker B: Did we actually think Gorsuch was a libertarian with a soft. Soft or transgender employment discrimination cases and a Native Indian property rights person or, you know. Right, but he would rule that Oklahoma is actually a Creek Indian reservation? [00:24:31] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:24:32] Speaker B: I don't think we saw that. [00:24:34] Speaker C: I don't see that coming. [00:24:36] Speaker B: Those were not. Okay. Those weren't. You know, President Trump said that he didn't, you know, these were not the people he interviewed. But he didn't think to ask those questions. He wouldn't. None of us would even have entertained those questions. It was unfair, unthinkable. Gorsuch was such a golden boy of the Federal Federalist Society that we thought he would be great. We did not know that he would actually turn out to be another David Souter. And then what about acb? We didn't know that because she also wanted to go by a three letter, you know, acronym that she would be literally kind of an acolyte of rgb. So. [00:25:18] Speaker C: Unbelievable. Well, look, here, here's what I'll say about President. [00:25:21] Speaker B: They got intimidated, okay? They've gotten intimidated. They're scared. They're cowards. [00:25:26] Speaker C: Well, and that happens, you know, in the swamp for sure. You know, because they make an example of people. They did of Robert Bork Senior. They did it with Clarence Thomas, they did it with Kavanaugh. It's amazing. The liberals, Democrat presidents, they're batting a thousand. [00:25:43] Speaker B: A thousand. [00:25:44] Speaker C: They're batting a thousand. They're batting a thousand. Right? And I don't. You go back to Eisenhower. Nixon had a ton of picks. Ford had picks. Ford put John Paul Stevens on there. Reagan, Reagan put Scalia on. But then with all the horseshit that happened around Bork, Robert Bork Senior, we ended up with, you know, Anthony Kennedy and Sandra Day o', Connor, who. And if you haven't read it, one of Ann Coulter's great. One of Ann Galter's greatest columns of all time was, was when Sandra Day OConnor retired and the headline was Reagan's Greatest Mistake Finally Retires. So, I mean, we, we whiff on these things. I mean, I was intimately involved with Laura Ingram, my former boss, in making sure George W. Bush didn't put the, the cleaning lady, the, the, you know, the, you know, the paperweight, his personal lawyer, Harriet Myers on the Supreme Court. And we got, you know, Alito instead. Thank God. Can you imagine if that woman was up there? I mean, we'd be cooked. So, so no, we're batting about, you know, 250 at best. [00:26:54] Speaker B: You know, maybe it just go, you're right. The Democrats bat a thousand, but it seems like we can't. The Republicans can't find anyone in the American legal system to nominate. I mean, sure, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, they've been great, right? But we're not replacing them with anyone like that and all that. You're going to like this one because I had a friend once tell me, and it almost sounds like a A.J. rice special quote, he said, quote, that the American legal community breeds choir boy sissies like Kavanaugh in the same way that Ireland breeds drunk. And I will never forget that because I'm like, yep. [00:27:36] Speaker C: Well, you know what? Here's the thing, though. You got nine justices on the Supreme Court, and if you go to any Irish pub in Galway or Cork, right? Or, you know, Dublin even, although it's, you know, filled with some libs in most, you know, any, well, let's say rural Irish town, and you find nine Irish drunks, they might do a better job than the nine dummies in black robes that are up there getting paid for by us. [00:28:05] Speaker B: I would agree. I would agree. Look, if we were really talking, you talk batting averages, if we were really talking batting averages here in baseball, we're batting.200, right? So you would. [00:28:18] Speaker A: There. [00:28:18] Speaker B: You would bench the bench. Because you would. [00:28:21] Speaker C: I mean, you know, it's. Alito and Thomas are up there alone on most days, you know, and Roberts, I mean, forget it. You know, I mean, he did. He clerked for Rehnquist and then he replaced Rehnquist. I mean, it's a joke. So, all right, we've got midterm elections coming up. Obviously, mail in ballots have been torpedoed. So we've. Nancy Pelosi recently sat down and, you know, I'm watching her talk about the, you know, the reliability of the voting machines. And I'm thinking of myself, wait a minute. I know a bunch of people that got banned from social media and they got drugging, they got, they got audited by the IRS and all the rest of it for saying this exact thing. Chris, let's play that concerns. [00:29:06] Speaker A: But with this president and these Republicans who have no commitment to the rule of law and doing things the appropriate way, we're ready. We have three, three purposes now. One is to win the midterms. Two is to make sure the elections are safe, and three, to tell people what we will do when we win. And that is. That is the mission. The all. There's so many things that you can do to protect the election. [00:29:38] Speaker C: Here we go. [00:29:39] Speaker A: And they are being done, whether it's litigation or legislation or just mobilization, communication, all that. But in addition to that, we have to be on guard as to what they may try to do to the technology. Oh, they may try to creep into the technology and create a false count. [00:30:00] Speaker B: How do you guard against that? [00:30:02] Speaker A: That's, that's a challenge. [00:30:04] Speaker C: How do you guard against that? Oh, I, I'm gonna flag Dominion and smartmatic on that, on that sound bite. You know, they were very concerned she's [00:30:13] Speaker B: going to get canceled and is she going to be sued and called in for depositions and is she going to, is her bank account going to be closed? Like Dr. John, he's been right for all of us who. Question. Yeah, yeah. [00:30:28] Speaker C: It's amazing, though. It's amazing how they move now. Now, you would say if we're going to be intellectually honest, though, Emerald, I mean, you know, one could say that somewhere in there, in that poorly wrapped, you know, baseball with the sutures coming undone, that, that, that there is a point that some of that, I mean, you've, you've, you've spent. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah, a little bit. [00:30:55] Speaker C: Well, what I'm saying is you've been talking about this for six years now. We know she's cynical. She's coming around to it now. You know, it's good for the goose, good for the gander, you know, Mikasa Sukasa. [00:31:05] Speaker B: But they talk about it when it's convenient. [00:31:07] Speaker C: There is a danger. And, and, and I guess my question to you is, and we're going to talk a little bit about AI later, but like, so the technology is changing and you know, Even in the 2020 election, we weren't dealing with rogue agent AIs that were lying to their users and doing digital jailbreaks. So, like it. At what point are we going to become, you know, where both parties don't believe in any elections whatsoever? [00:31:37] Speaker B: We're pretty close to that. Have you seen the polling over the years that Rasmussen did? And yeah, I mean, I, Democrats and Republicans and for different reasons I would suspect they didn't really get into, you know, why you think that on the polling. But largely people don't. We're already to that point, which puts us in a constitutional crisis. And look, she's talking about the machines now. They talked about it back in 2016 and, you know, to 2020, when it was convenient for them. And honestly, when I went back and looked at some of the reporting on, a lot of the reporting that I found was open source or information was open source information when I started looking into the voting machine companies. And it was people like Amy Klobuchar talking about it. And Mike Lindell will highlight that all the time. And you know, Mike Lindell is such, he's so honest and he hasn't changed his message. And it as he was running for Minnesota governor, he said, look, Amy Klobuchar, you said this in the past. I agree with you. Let's work together to fix this. And no, when you look at. So the voting machine technology actually isn't really that complicated. It's made convoluted. Right. And complex. So it's hard to audit or to follow exactly what's going on. But we're not talking about AI here. Right. This is simple things like leaving encryption keys open using the same password, allowing. [00:32:58] Speaker C: That's human error. Human error. Yeah. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Well, no, it's yes. Yes and no. Right. We're not, it's not AI but it is, you know, it's easy to flip the votes. That's been proven on many, you know, by some liberals and proven by some conservatives. It's just according to who wants to prove it at the time. Right. Which I think is what we find ourselves today. Who is it convenient to highlight the problems we have. And we do have real problems and nothing's changed about that. So. So they haven't fixed that in any way. So you don't even have to use AI I mean, in the future if you fix some of the basic problems and maybe they look at AI but you don't even have to use it to rig an election these days with voting machines. And then you add in mail in ballots. Right. It's. And it is death by a thousand cuts. Some people like to talk about mail in ballots because it's a little bit safer and it's a more obvious, you know, it's obvious fraud. Right. It's easier to see how that happens. They like to talk about the voter rolls, where it all originates from. You have to have padding of the voter rolls to enable all of it. Sure. So there's a thousand ways to cheat in the elections. But the electronic voting machines are an interesting one because we've not gotten rid of it under this Trump term, though that's what we thought would happen. [00:34:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:12] Speaker B: And if you look in headed into the midterms, Republicans are not looking as if they'll fare very well in a free, and I'm saying this in a free and fair election, if you had hand counted paper ballots today, I'm not sure Republicans would do very well because, you know, pollsters I trust and you know how I feel about polling, but I talk to them behind the scenes. And like, I do trust Mark Mitchell. He and I go back and forth and Rich Barris, we go back and forth all the time. Rich Barris reminds me of me and you talking. We'll just, you know, you know, and we don't always agree, but I know I'm not getting from people in the White House or the political operatives that are on the outside but tied to the Trump apparatus that they're very concerned about it. And I do have to ask myself why. So when Nancy Pelosi says something like that, sure. You know, I think she and I kind of, you know, well, I think, [00:35:14] Speaker C: I think the modern cynicism around all this begins with the hanging chads probably and the Florida recount. That's where that slippery slope has come all the way, you know, last 25 years, 26 years. That's where it began. You know, George W. Bush was selected and not elected and all the rest of it. Before we go to a break though, I've got to get this in. So I want to continue now. Republican Party leadership now he has stepped aside. Mitch McConnell, Old Foghorn Leghorn, he, you know, with you had Pelosi there, the Crypt Keeper, and now we got Foghorn Leghorn. Chris, give me this video of the youth movement, new leadership here. Here we go. Here he comes. Here he comes. The poor guy, you know, so he just got a charge there. He's coming out of the Jiffy lube. And Senator McConnell, how you feel? [00:36:05] Speaker B: Feeling? [00:36:05] Speaker C: Senator McConnell. Now, he could still beat Joe Biden in a foot race, ladies and gentlemen. How you feeling, Mitch? You feeling all right, Mitch? Good. All right, Mitch. So, Chris, you could cut that. I mean, he's obviously, you know, this is on his way to the vegetable farm. [00:36:38] Speaker B: I, I, I would say to that that you could not find a more perfect symbol of our current Congress. Oh, sure, yeah, he's a vegetable and he's obviously brain dead, but he's still voting. [00:36:54] Speaker C: They've got, he's a poll watcher. You didn't know that? That's, that's how they're going to fix the election integrity. They said it, they're sending Mitch around, you know, with, you know, you really [00:37:04] Speaker B: have to question elections. Let's be honest here. Like, you probably didn't even have to know anything about the mail in ballots or the voting machines. But you see them, will a guy into the Senate like that and, and, oh, maybe Last Susan Crabtree, because I thought about that, too. She's like, if any of us who's covered McConnell for years have never seen him smile that much, you know, you know they've got him on something good. [00:37:28] Speaker C: You know, for sure that you see [00:37:30] Speaker B: that and you see our geriat, Nancy Pelosi, and you know, exactly some of the others, then I'm sure many people across America look and think, I, I didn't vote for that. Who did vote for that? [00:37:44] Speaker C: That's right. That's right. I mean, I, it's, it's an amazing thing. You know, sometimes I want to give him a pass because he kept Merrick Garland off of the Supreme Court. That was probably the last good thing he did. When. When? Well, I mean, he's riding it into the, the netherworld there. I mean, he's riding, he's riding at home to get his next dose from his Chinese friendly wife sent him to [00:38:08] Speaker B: the nursing home to be the leader of whatever HOA type board they have there. [00:38:14] Speaker C: That's right. Well, look, guys, we're talking to Emerald Robinson, host, uh, on Lindell tv of the Absolute Truth. We're going to take another break here in a second. Always remember, ladies and gentlemen, humor is moral warfare by other means. We will be back on the other side. [00:40:32] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:40:39] Speaker C: The DL with Emerald Robinson, my sister from another Mr. She is the host of the Absolute Truth on Lindell tv. And go follow her on, on Twitter so she can nail your scalp to the wall. So, Emerald, we're talking about the, the possible youth movement in the future in politics. We just showed the two geriatric, barely alive people on the other side there. There's never been a Gen X. President Obama was close, but he was technically a young boomer. Marco Rubio is Gen X. I guess Gavin Newsom would be. Kamala was. JD Vance is a millennial. He is a millennial. [00:41:26] Speaker B: He's probably like the old possible millennial. You could be right. Which I think is where I'm at, too. [00:41:31] Speaker C: Yeah, no, you and I, we're all geriatric millennials, right? If you're born. Well, you know, if you're born in the 80s, you know, if you remember, you know who John Hughes is. And a vcr. Right, Major. So, so, so where are we gonna go here? Right? Like change. They always do. I see the Rubio Vance people out there. Obviously they're calling here, you know, that they're trying to pump up one or another at Publius pr. My day job, you know, if I [00:42:07] Speaker B: mean Rubio, I'm interested to hear what you say. [00:42:10] Speaker C: Yeah, he took a crack at it. He took a crack at it in 2016. He's evolved on some issues since then. [00:42:16] Speaker B: And you know, the small hands thing, I mean, Donald Trump did nail him with that. And now every time people see Rubio, [00:42:23] Speaker C: they think, yeah, if he runs, they're going to run the tape on that for sure. So, so. But there's a larger sort of debate happening and it's in the sort of right of center conservative media space where, you know, there's legitimate arguments going on about the war in Iran. Right. We have one side and another on that about foreign interference with our government, whether it's Israel or Qatar or China or whoever the hell it is. Right. And that's not new. I mean, we had foreign interference when we created the country because Spain declared war on Great Britain on our behalf and France financed the whole thing so that we had foreign interference in our cradle. And, you know, Franklin and Washington, John Jay and the boys had to, you know, had to use some diplomatic jiu jitsu to get out from under that. But it was quite amazing that we used France to defeat their mortal enemy. And the first thing we do under the Washington administration is we turn around and we cut a trade deal immediately with England. So, you know, which was known as the J Treaty. So on the right, though, you have Iran, you have Israel, you also have this debate going on over AI and data centers. I think that's big. It's not just a left right debate. There's the right is debating each other on this. And I think those things, and there's some others, those things are sort of lining up under this Vance Rubio rubric. Right. [00:44:01] Speaker B: Sort of. Because, I mean, I would say in some ways it's hard to tell where Vance and Rubio completely differ right now. You probably know and have talked about on here, it seems like the White House and of course Susie Wiles was really behind Rubio. Initially there was a big push, but now you see advance, more of a promotion advance, not necessarily from the White House, but he's trying to get out there. He has been seen. Right. Vance has been seen more anti Iranian conflict, but now he's floating around there, you know, trying to, to get back, you would say the Jewish vote, I guess the Israel first vote. So I'm not sure how that's going to line up. I'm watching it. Here's the thing I get from most people and then I sort of maybe feel myself now. I've had interactions with JD or Vice President Vance, you know, I've known him for a long time. You know, he's, he comes from hillbilly stock too, like I do. We have commonality there, but I feel like a lot of people don't feel like they don't really know who he is. You might, you might not love everything about Rubio, but I feel like Republicans, conservatives kind of feel like they know who he is, even if they don't agree with everything. I think what I hear the most is that people don't know who Vance really is. And if you're looking at, let's say, let's look at the media landscape and some of those who were really hardcore populace. America first, pro behind Trump since 2016. Right. 2015, even, let's say that, are coming out and saying, this is not America First. This is not what I want. I don't think they want J.D. vance either. So we're at a row. [00:45:36] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you're gonna get one. But I, what I'm worried about is the debt. If you really think about it, the Democrats haven't had a real primary since Barack Obama took out Hillary and John Edwards because then he was the nominee in 12. And then at 16, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, old peanut butter mouth and Hillary pretty much rigged that to keep Bernie out. They use the super delegates and all the rest of it. And then four years later, they, they pretty much, you know, did it again where they basically told every after South Carolina, right before South Carolina, they told everyone to get out of the race. And, you know, Crazy eyes, Corey leaves and, and Klobuchar leaves and Mayor Pete leaves. They all leave so that Biden can go to South Carolina with the Congressional Black Caucus and the last king of Clyburn and they can, and he can, you know, win South Carolina from the basement and rig that, which was a [00:46:36] Speaker B: deal he made Obama. [00:46:37] Speaker C: Right. So that brings me to the Kamala election, where Biden gets decapitated on stage and they give Kamala a billion dollars, which she lights on fire in 107 days, whatever the hell it is. So if you think about it, if you want to know why the DSA exists and why these people are pissed and, and, and, and, and, you know, and crazy and they're willing to do, to just burn the whole building down is because the Democrats really have been managing their crazy socialist, Marxist, Leninist base since Obama showed up. They, they, they, you know, you look [00:47:14] Speaker B: at that timeline, but you see how they're reworking AOC now and trying to make her seem less socialist. The Soccer mom. [00:47:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it sounds like, like she's complaining about wokeism recently. [00:47:28] Speaker B: Let's say it was we. This, this November was the election cycle or whatever. I think AOC would be their candidate. I think they're definitely her and reworking her image. You don't. [00:47:40] Speaker C: No. No way. [00:47:41] Speaker B: Possibility. [00:47:42] Speaker C: No way. She's not winning any. She's not winning Pennsylvania. She's not winning these places. She's not winning the Rust Belt. And you know, she is Latin. So she might be able to steal Nevada back. You know, Trump was the first person to win Nevada since W in 04. And that was, you know, because of the no tax on tips and the gaming commission and all the resorts and stuff. Right. So he got, you know, that, that's like an SEIU policy that, you know, you have to give Trump credit. Just reached into the left wing bag of tricks and stole that from him. But I guess it boils down to, you got the youth movement with Vance and he's trying to, you know, negotiate with the mullahs and try to keep the, you know, Tucker wing happy. And then with. [00:48:26] Speaker B: He's doing a lot of tab dancing. [00:48:28] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. No, you better put on his clogs there, right? And have, and then you have Rubio, Cuban immigrant. You know, he's got a compelling immigrant story. [00:48:41] Speaker B: And you know what, being Secretary of State has really actually helped him out, right? Oh, yeah. [00:48:45] Speaker C: It's remade him. [00:48:46] Speaker B: It's been a great PR push for him. I mean, the, the people who did not like him prior to this administration and made fun of him, all of a sudden, you know, are looking at him and thinking, well, and then there is the meme where he gets every job in the administration. Right. [00:49:03] Speaker C: And he plays up on that and [00:49:06] Speaker B: it's very smart to do so. So he's kind of, I don't forget that he was on the Incident Intelligence Committee when they were doing Russiagate. So. Sure. I have not. [00:49:15] Speaker C: Remember he did a State of the Union response where he's grabbing his water and splashing it on his face and all the rest and all the rest of it. So let me get back to the. [00:49:23] Speaker B: For all of them, but go ahead. [00:49:25] Speaker C: Yeah, right. So here's the thing. The Democrats have been rigging their, their next. They've been playing this next man up game for a while. If we don't give the Republican Party a real primary primary, we're the same as that. We're going to act like them. The American people want to have a real primary. They don't want to have one of These Democrat stage primaries. So if Trump thinks, you know, I would caution and I tell them, you know, they're. These aren't just pieces you could move around on the board. Let. And Trump. Trump's instinct is to let people box it out. I think he likes that. He loved it when Bannon and Jared were fighting. He loved it. Well, that too, but that, but, you know, you give your voters a real choice. Do you, you know, you. What do you want? You want the ribeye or do you want filet mignon? What do you want? Fight it out. [00:50:18] Speaker B: And here's the thing. And you have to almost let them fight it out and do a primary because you're not. If we're in the same place we are today, when we're approaching the 28 election, you're not going to write off the whole, well, but look how great things are. So don't you want to keep it this way? Right. If gas prices are still where they are, especially diesel, and so that affects the shipping and the trucking. Right. So everything else is still going to be like up and up and up. If, if we're still fighting over data centers. It's kind of. So the data center AI issue, because you brought that up earlier, that's almost the new. That's like the new unifier that was once the, the COVID The pandemic issue. Right. With the Maga Maha coalition. [00:50:59] Speaker C: Right. [00:51:00] Speaker B: That can almost be the new coalition because I'll tell you, in my blue area that I live in, that is actually bringing people together. [00:51:06] Speaker C: Sure, sure. [00:51:08] Speaker B: I mean, look, people like do community meetings about it, so. [00:51:11] Speaker C: Absolutely it is. I mean, we just not long ago, Bannon and Bernie Sanders were on stage together at the same event talking about AI and data centers. So there is definitely some overlap concentric [00:51:23] Speaker B: circle people that I see on the right. They're really promoting it, are the kind of influencers that you see get the coordinated messaging and push for other issues that are what we would consider anti America first and we find out later that they're getting paid. So not an actual like, I don't think there's a real like as far as the average conservative voter, I don't know many of them who are actually for the AI in the data centers that's manufactured that. [00:51:49] Speaker C: But when Trump puts out this message concerning AI, when in the history of business, did anyone see the leaders of an industry call for regulation that if strongly implemented, will drive them into oblivion and bankruptcy? I mean, there it is. You know, this is a classic, you know, Trump machine gun number Here. But whether it was nuclear war or Standard Oil or the railroad industry at, you know, Bell Telephone, I mean, there. There have been. I mean, the difference. People keep saying, well, we're in a race. We're in a race. I always tell them, like, what the hell are we gonna win? Are we gonna be the last slaves? What do we win if we win the race, do we get to die last? What. What is. [00:52:35] Speaker B: But, but listen again. Go back to the numbers, which is always a smart thing to do. If we're in a race with China over data centers. We have far more data centers already than China does, like, exponentially more. We're pushing what, 4,000? They have like 400. [00:52:52] Speaker C: Yeah, and half of them are in Loudoun County. Half of them are in Loudoun County, Virginia. But the race isn't about the data centers. The race is about super intelligence. And if you want to compare it to a nuclear weapon, you can try to do that. The nuclear weapons were not thinking for themselves. They were not trying to escape the missile silo. Okay, so that's the problem I see there. And I like all this stuff in 2028, Vance versus Rubio, the DSA versus the, you know, the Bill Clinton wing with, you know, which is almost extinct now. I mean, Bill Clinton couldn't win a primary. Yeah, he couldn't win a dog catcher primary. But, but, I mean, this needs to be on the table. The American people need to see a real fight. Otherwise, it. It. They're just going to become more cynical like we were talking about with the voting. So I want to turn back the clock here. We're talking, I want to talk now about the conservative media space. One of the greatest things I ever read in 2018, and I told her this at the time, June 29, 2018, I'm holding it in my hand was this piece called the Collapse of the Never Trumper Conservatives. Now, a lot of these guys are running a landscaping company now. They do mulching. And, you know, they'll. They'll edge your. They'll edge your driveway and, and do a little river rock if you want. But, you know, there's a lot of characters here. Full disclosure, some of these people I used to book as a guest for Laura Ingram and Monica Crowley 20 years ago. Some of them I've worked with, like, I work with Charles Krauthammer's son. He's a. He's a nice guy. Chris David Krauthammer. You know, you know, I think they all meant well, but, you know, they [00:54:41] Speaker B: saw it, and some Didn't. [00:54:43] Speaker C: I'll give them. But they saw their Monopoly break up. I mean, look at some of these people. All right, we got Will, we got Michael Gerson, Brett Stevens, David Brooks, Ross dudot, Jonah David, French, Ramesh and Erickson. Erickson, actually, lately sounds sane sometimes. And I've known, you know, most of these guys. Everyone there, with an exception of maybe Stevens and French, I knew at one point. I've been to George Will's house. You know, that's where the first time I met Justice Alito, because he's a Phillies fan. And we just, you know, we're just, you know, busting George Will's balls about his baseball team. They are the Washington Nationals. Now, where did these people go? Have any of them come back? I mean, you basically say. And look, some of the stuff you say here, you know, this is 2018. This is before COVID is before the stolen election. And it looks like what was a date. Yeah, this is before the midterms that year, too. So, you know, how has the conservative media landscape changed? Because, you know, someone with your pedigree. Someone with mine. Look, you have to understand that when I got here 22 years ago, with my West Virginia accent from northeast Philadelphia and, you know, a state school degree, you know, talker and all the rest of it, you know, hard Scrabble, you know, trying to get in, trying to get into the club. I now own the club, but trying to get into the club. Some of these people here and their acolytes, their interns, they, you know, this one, I, you know, clerk for this, and I'm, you know, the niece of this goofball senator, there was a barrier to entry. I think, for people like you and me and I, you know, for all the things we could complain about, Trump, he kind of wiped the blackboard clean and allowed all kinds of characters to get involved in government. Some of them, you know, like Amorosa. Some of them turned out to be, you know, sort of the grifter, you know, hangers on circus people. But, you know, but it did allow talent. I mean, Lindell TV wouldn't exist. Real America's Voice wouldn't exist. Newsmax tv, you know, Newsmax TV was. Was airing radio shows. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:57:10] Speaker C: What I'm saying is there's all kinds of podcasts now, and there's rumble and there's. There's substack and there's truth social people and getter people into this and that, you know, and I think it brought an egalitarianism that said all of your information doesn't have to be filtered through Jonah Goldberg and his jock strap. Am I right? [00:57:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:31] Speaker B: You know, it was really interesting. I never expected that article to get the kind of reception it did. [00:57:38] Speaker C: Oh, it was huge. But when it did, gentlemen, you have no idea. Go read it yourself. [00:57:44] Speaker A: We'll. [00:57:44] Speaker C: We'll tweet it out. [00:57:45] Speaker B: And I got in trouble for that, too. I got in a lot of trouble for that. I got written up at one American News over that because I didn't get permission to publish. But I remember didn't think about that. Then they asked me to go on radio shows after that to promote it, which was, hello, that's right. [00:57:59] Speaker C: I'm gonna write you up for this. Oh, wait a minute. Everyone loves it. I mean, it's just. [00:58:04] Speaker B: Okay, so. But I had no idea the kind of waves it would send through the political establishment, because it spoke to what people were feeling under the surface and not just the bubble of dc, but America. There was a true anti elitist sentiment that was rising. And somehow I managed to capture that in that article, not even realizing how much. And it just. It's like it blew the lid off of it and it allowed it to become part of the public discourse. And then these people got hammered. And I think they deserve to, because they had begun. Maybe some of them began with good intentions initially, but they had begun selling America out. They could see what we had seen. Right? [00:58:57] Speaker C: And yeah, they were comfortable losing as gentlemen. Losing politely. Go home, have a little freaking tapioca pudding, a little green tea, and better luck next time. Right? That's what that. That's. [00:59:09] Speaker B: They. [00:59:09] Speaker C: They wanted this to be us, to. To be, you know, not be sore, you know, or basically, they. They were okay as long as they kept power. Right? They were okay with the system the way it was. Right. I don't know if I've told this story on this show, but I've. I've told it on other people's shows. I might have told it on yours. You know, when Barack Obama won, he went to dinner at George Will's house and he wanted to hand pick who his opposition would be. He wanted them to genuflect in front of him and he would knight them. You're allowed to criticize me as long as you do it softly and as a gentleman. Right. And who's at the dinner? Half the people in their freaking list, including, you know, Peggy Noonan and Fred Barnes, David from. They were all there. It's like eight or nine of them, you know, Crowdhammer and Will and. And David Brooks. And you know, Crystal. And they're all there. And that was so Obama could say, look, there are reasonable people that don't like what I'm doing. Right. The reasonable people. Now what do you think happened? Andrew Breitbart came out with no pants on and a flamethrower and went crazy on, on what exactly happened after 08 and into the, you know, the midterms and the Tea party in, in 2010 and that spirit personified by the Tea Party and you know, Palin and you know, what Breitbart was doing, you know, the ACORN sting and what James did and other things that then got tried to get controlled by the banners and the, and, and the Paul Ryan's. Right. And the McConnells. Well, you know, if we're gonna take it over. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna take it over. We're gonna, we're gonna repeal Obamacare for fun 400 times and, and do, and raise money off of it. And you know, all of you barbarians stay quiet. And out of that freaking milieu, trumpzilla comes down the escalator. [01:01:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:10] Speaker C: And then you're coming in there in the third act of this with that piece. Which brings me to today. Have any of these people returned or have they been replaced by younger versions of themselves? [01:01:25] Speaker B: They haven't returned in a significant way, I would say. They've all sort of, you know, they've had to enter sort of the alternative media sphere themselves and you see them on CNN and Ms. Now, whatever the [01:01:36] Speaker C: hell it is now. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Msdnc, I still like that, that one, that Trump nickname. But what I am concerned about, and I probably need to do a follow up piece now where we are today is that though these people might not have returned and there are some younger versions, but not maybe as, not as celebrated or as, you know, established yet, their ideas are obviously persisting in this administration by some of the staffers. So that is my concern. The ideas have not necessarily weight. We're seeing some neocon tendencies creep in this administration. I don't think it's Trump per se, but the people around him and he listens to him and you know, personnel is policy. [01:02:19] Speaker C: Yep. [01:02:21] Speaker B: But it still is not what it was in, you know, in Trump 1 when he first came to office. It is still different, but we are in a moment where I think they could rise again if we're, we're not careful. But what was interesting about that is like, like you said, Trump, Trump was the result of what people were already feeling. Right. And they were craving some authenticity as well. And you weren't getting any authenticity from any of these people in the media. [01:02:51] Speaker C: No. [01:02:52] Speaker B: And after that, I mean, not only did it just get a ton of attention, I, I couldn't believe it. Somebody called me screaming, rush Limbaugh is reading your piece on air. I walked into the White House and Major Garrett was like, wow, that was some article. And I'm like, he's never even spoken to me. You know, it was wild. But people, but some of these people lost their TV contracts because it was then obvious the current had been pulled back. And it was obvious that they were being propped up by, you know, the establishment, you know, outside interest. It was not really that they were, [01:03:30] Speaker C: they were, most of your people in there were at that Obama dinner. So they had the stamp of approval, the stamp of approval on their forehead from the unit party. Right. [01:03:39] Speaker B: They were always controlled opposition. Right. They were there to make you feel like There was a two party system in, in Washington, Washington, D.C. when we all knew already and become more apparent since that it was a unit party. And that included the so called, you know, thinkers on the right that were writing all of these columns in the Washington Post. And you know, I will tell you, [01:04:02] Speaker C: I will tell you and I, I've had some people either directly working at National Review or loosely related, some of the younger people I had, Noah Rothman on this show, he, he's got concerns about certain things, but for the most part, I mean, he, he's hitting the bullseye on a lot of things that we all agree on. You know, it's, it's, there's a new generation over there, whether they can, whether they have an audience or can raise money. I don't know. Noah, as a standalone guy who actually interned for Opie and Anthony, and he came from radio, you know, he's a different type of vibe. He's not Rich Lowry. Right. So you're getting a different vibe from him. So that's a good thing. I mean, you know, I mean, maybe the donors at National Review, I'm sure read your, read your article. Right. So we got to get some new blood in here, right? [01:04:50] Speaker B: It did. It had a major effect. Donations plummeted. I would have never have thought again the kind of effect that that article had had. People lost their TV contracts, Jonah Goldberg lost his mind. It really was a change of the guard. And I thought that we were fully through that and I thought we would have seen that longer. [01:05:11] Speaker C: Now we're never going to be through it. I mean, I've been here long enough, you know, I didn't show up when Trump showed up and I, I went through all the Bush years in the Obama years here in D.C. and you know there's that, that fight's always been there. I mean Reagan and Goldwater and William F. Buckley Jr. Used to argue with each other. [01:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:29] Speaker C: And that's, that's healthy. I think, I really do think it's healthy. [01:05:33] Speaker B: That brings to another concern that we've gotten to right on the just the right side is that is, it's becoming not okay to have these disagreements and arguments amongst our own. Right. The debate, I call it debate. Right. If you don't agree with me, blah blah, blah blah blah. And there, and they need to have, there's the paid influencers who are getting promoted right on the right and that's it. So you know, I don't know, I don't know what the future holds. [01:06:01] Speaker C: Well look, when the next time we [01:06:02] Speaker B: go sit down and think about it and write another follow up piece though. [01:06:05] Speaker C: I think so. Well look, here's the thing. Next time we go vote for president, it's going to be close to the 10 year anniversary of that column. So I mean I think, I think, dare I say, I think the spirit of that column and everything that's happened since could be a book in and of itself. So we gotta let Emerald run. We've, we've monopolized her time a little too much here. She has to go slay some liberal dragons and some linguini spine Republican dragons. Everybody go. [01:06:36] Speaker B: You know, I got, you know what got them in that column though was that I called them low testosterone. They lost their mind. [01:06:41] Speaker C: Sure. [01:06:42] Speaker B: So the low T, the low T, so called conservatives, that's my specialty. [01:06:46] Speaker C: That's right, that's right, that's right. And now the Democrats, they're, they're trying to find their masculinity and they're running a hairless pet for U. S. Senate there in Texas. You know the vegan, the non rib eating vegans. Jesus is 72 genders person. [01:07:01] Speaker B: So who could name his favorite drag queen off the top of his head? [01:07:05] Speaker C: Wow. How about that? [01:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:07] Speaker C: You know here I, I would try to name my favorite Puerto Rican shortstop but I mean, I guess you know, Mikasa Sukas are there. So everybody go to substack the right way. That's where you could find Emerald. Tune in to the absolute truth. Emerald. Where else do you want to send people to go find the brilliance? [01:07:24] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely subscribe on substack Emerald tv. That's where you'll find a lot of my in depth analysis and investigative reporting. I include a lot of sources there too, so it's an educational experience. And then you can watch me every day on Lindell tv dot com. We'd really love if you download the app, the Lyndell TV app on all your devices. It's a Roku Fire tv, Apple tv. All that and help support us because we've been, you know, we've been trying to hold both parties feet to the fire. We have amazing correspondence there. Washington, D.C. allison Steinberg, Cara Castrova. So we'd appreciate your support there. I'm live every day from noon to 1pm Eastern, and you can watch the [01:08:03] Speaker C: replay at 8pm that's it. Everybody's got. And you got to watch it twice. Everybody's got to watch it twice, right? [01:08:09] Speaker B: There you go. [01:08:09] Speaker C: So I know what most men do. And, and Emerald's not a. Emerald's not available. They, they, they watch it with the sound on and then they watch with the sound off. Right? It's just, you know, and they're, you [01:08:19] Speaker B: know, watches it with the sound off. Look at me without me talking, let's be honest. [01:08:26] Speaker C: Oh, well, look, I, I appreciate you coming on, you know, we love you here. You keep fighting out there. You know, the little bit of trivia. Emerald's husband was the officiant at my secret wedding many moons ago. It was like a secret Game of Thrones wedding when the governor of Virginia was trying to hunt down to see if there were 50, if there were more than 50 people in a gathering. 50 people at a gathering. So Emerald is part of the family, as is her husband and children. Everybody go check her out. Always remember, our job here is to transform horror into humor. I think we did a little bit of that today. And always, always remember, ladies and gentlemen, stay dangerous. [01:09:09] Speaker B: Dangerous. [01:09:11] Speaker A: Laughter. Laughter. Dangerous, Dangerous laughter. Dangerous laughter. Laughter.

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